The old proverb “Hindsight is 2020” rings true when it comes to the Q movement. It is now nine months after the election fraud took place. The last time we heard from Q was December 8, 2020. That drop was a link to a video which has since been removed. Time has given me perspective on the Q movement, if you want to call it that. It is an interesting phenomenon, given what we Latter-day Saints know about the history of the first century of Christianity and how it transformed once the apostles of Jesus were gone.
The Q movement has become a “religion” of sorts. Perhaps it’s even cult in the sociological sense. When anti-Mormons call the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints a “cult,” they are using the term in a theological sense. In the sociological view, all religions begin as cults. They mature over time, eventually becoming a sect, then a denomination, then a church. Most denominations never arrive at becoming a sociological church because that step requires validation from and merging with the power of the state. The Roman Catholic Church was a sociological church because it became intertwined with government under Constantine. The Russian Orthodox Church is a sociological church because of its deep connections with the Czars and eventually the Putin government. The Church of England is a sociological church. Most denominations never evolve into sociological churches because they don’t have an explicit connection to the power of government. A sociological church gives moral legitimacy to the state and the state uses its power to punish, or at least ostracize, heretics and dissenters.
The Q movement has all the earmarks of a sociological cult. It was led by a “mystical” or charismatic figure who claimed insights beyond that of an average person. It claimed a unique authority not held by others. It attacked a corrupt, previously existing establishment, and it called for a return to a previously existing condition of ideological purity. Q established a new “scripture” in the form of over four thousand “drops” or messages, providing revelation of information to which regular mortals did not have access. Q promised and predicted an “apocalyptic” ending that could bring down the corrupt “temple” and that the result would be “biblical” in nature. In the end, there was a Q eschatology that imagined a new world without the oppressive controls of super-wealthy oligarchs whose families have dominated almost all of human history.
Interestingly, Q has attracted a large following among evangelical Christians, especially those who believe in a “pre-tribulation” theological model. This model interprets scripture to mean that a miraculous transformation will occur after a sufficient level of evangelization is attained. At that moment, society will transform into a righteous, “Millennial” condition based on the affects of gospel living by believers. When this condition occurs, Christ himself can return and dwell with us again. The opposing, post-tribulation, view is more apocalyptic. It believes in the “Rapture,” wherein all the believers are taken up off the Earth while the tribulation destroys the wicked with plagues, famine, pestilence, and all the maledictions mentioned in Revelation. Then Jesus returns with the righteous after the tribulation to take over the management of the Earth and destroy the wicked. The Q concept fits nicely into the pre-tribulation view of scripture. Many Christians believed that Q was a part of God’s plan to overthrow the Cabal’s power and usher in the new Millennium.
This is where the Q movement has gone completely off the rails, in my opinion. There are hundreds of thousands of evangelical Christians in the movement now who have no depth of understanding about the Cabal. I first learned of its existence in 1978 when I read the book “None Dare Call it Conspiracy” by Gary Allen. I was skeptical when I read it, but I was careful to observe for years before coming to any conclusion. I wrote my own book about the new world order in the late Nineties. That’s twenty years of studying and observing events. In the Q movement, there are a lot of people who just heard about Q and “The Plan” and just ran with it. Most of them have never read the Q drops, just like most Christians have never read the whole Bible. They heard about Q and joined a forum where discussions happen. Sites like 8Kun are too complicated for the average soccer mom to figure out how to use. There is too much freewheeling anarchy on there for your average Christian to feel comfortable (not to mention the boobs that appear to thank the bakers for the bread). That means that the average Q follower now has not absorbed the anon culture that questions everything and demands proof before believing. Now, most anons are acting on faith and a great number of them don’t have the context of the drops, having not read all of them.
Because they have no real knowledge of Q, of military intelligence, or even how republican government is supposed to work, they rely on “experts” who interpret Q drops for them. Over time, several prominent Q interpreters have arisen: X22 Report, Praying Medic, and Neon Revolt, to name a few. In the Q movement, they are regarded almost like prophets. People expect them to predict how events are going to play out. The most recent addition to the list is “Patel Patriot,” who has popularized an idea called “Devolution.” Patriot Patel claims that Trump signed the Insurrection Act right before he left office, putting the military in charge. This means that Biden’s inauguration and any official acts done by him to this point are illegitimate. It explains odd things like why the White House lights went dark at night for several weeks at the beginning of his term and what appears to be the alleged use of a movie set that looks like the White House for press events. It is supposed evidence as to why the official plane of the President is not using the Air Force One callsign when it flies. Supposedly, the military is just waiting for the Arizona and other state audits to report election fraud publicly and then, they will depose the impostor from power and hold new, secure elections. Out of these Q “oracles,” some of them have become “paytriots,” having monetized their popularity to sell books, hats, T-shirts, or who profit from advertising revenues, etc. Others have abandoned the movement. One popular Q prognosticator had admitted a history of mental health issues before he became popular and then, under the pressure of the moment, he backed out and had to abandon his efforts to prevent a mental breakdown.
As the movement reconfigures itself in Q’s absence, it causes chaos and confusion. The anons start to turn on each other. The anons harbor suspicions of Freemasons, Catholics, Mormons, Muslims, and anyone from a foreign country. They are much like the Know-Nothing party of the nineteenth century in that regard. One commenter on Patel Patriot’s Telegram chat yesterday expressed suspicion of X22 Report because he said once that his main job was working in a Catholic School. Q told anons that “They want you divided by religion” as well as by race. Q’s followers ignore that warning. Despite their enthusiasm for prophetic pretenders like fireman Mark Taylor and the late Kim Clement, historically, evangelical Christians have violently opposed any movement that claimed to be from a prophetic source. They violently persecuted Latter-day Saints and drove them from the borders of the United States in the 1840s and sent the army to occupy Utah in the late 1850s. American Indians experienced two Ghost Dance movements, which were of prophetic origin. Evangelical Christians drove the political and government policies that ultimately ended the Ghost Dance movement forever at the Wounded Knee Massacre in 1890. It seems that, although America has no official state religion, the unofficial state Church is evangelical Christianity. Anything that challenges its power is vehemently attacked. Interestingly, because Q fits in with their apocalyptic theology, it is evangelicals that have co-opted the movement. If Q returns, he is going to have to struggle to regain control over it. A “dead” prophet is worth more to them than a living one.
Now that Q is gone, I am seeing a shift in the movement. While Q was still active, he played a quality control role at times. When anons started going amiss, he would issue corrections. Q mainly asked questions in a Socratic manner, which helped guide researchers. The anon community prized “sauce,” meaning evidence. They didn’t want platitudes. They wanted proof. If evidence could be found, that was great, but without “sauce,” everything should be taken with a grain of salt. That’s not happening now in any great measure. As I mentioned before, most Christians in America have never read the whole Bible. Even if they did, they wouldn’t know what to make of it. They rely on whatever their pastor says and every pastor has his own interpretations of scripture. There’s no central authority among evangelicals. The Bible is a book that must be understood by the spirit of revelation and these modern Christians believe in creeds that teach there is to be no further revelation from God, despite their enthusiasm for people who post their revelatory dreams on YouTube. This is why there has always been divisions among Christian sects, denominations, and churches. Nobody agrees on what any of it means.
If you were to join one of these current Q forums, you would see a lot of “hopium,” a slang term for any news that provides hope to the discouraged and wavering believers. They go back through the Q drops by dates, looking for “deltas.” They find something Q said in 2018 on a certain date that hints that Trump was supposed to leave office, or that he would be restored back to the Presidency on the Fourth of July, or that Durham’s investigation is still going to lead to mass arrests of pedophiles and criminals in the government. Today, August 6th, was supposed to be the second date postulated for Trump’s return.
Perhaps the most telling sign of all that the Q movement is becoming a sociological cult is how they deal with anyone who questions the direction of the movement. Q followers were “exiled” from social media sites like Twitter and Facebook. Their videos on YouTube were quashed and demonetized. They know the sting of having been banned. So now, they gather on so-called “free-speech” sites, but they aggressively ban anyone who questions the emerging orthodoxy. Whereas the Q movement welcomed people from all backgrounds, all religions, all races, it has morphed into a conglomeration of primarily white, evangelical Christians, who hate Freemasons, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, and Mormons. Despite Q’s warnings that the Cabal wants us divided by religion and race, the current Q movement quickly “excommunicates” anyone who questions their orthodoxy.
For that reason alone, the Q movement has failed. I still harbor hope that the election fraud will be exposed, that the wicked ones who control the government will be exposed, and that we might peacefully transition back to constitutional norms, but that hope is fading fast. The Latter-day Saint prophets and apostles have foretold of a time when the government will collapse and anarchy will consume the nation. Only those who gather into the stakes of Zion will find refuge. I had hoped that we might be following a scenario like occurred in the Book of Mormon, where the Nephite saints briefly defeated and overcame the Gadianton robbers of their time, before succumbing to wickedness again. It may not work out that way in our time. All I know now is that there is nothing standing in the way of the coming collapse except our faith in the Lord and your own family’s preparations.
I know that some people will point out the irony of a Mormon, who is thought to be a cultist by most evangelical Christians, critiquing the evangelicals in the Q movement and calling it a cult. One of the things I have noticed in my study of history is that the oppressed can transform into the oppressor if they are not careful. For example, the Pilgrims came to America to seek religious freedom, but they didn’t extend that liberty to other religious opinions once they got to the New World. Oppressed minorities fled from Europe and came to America where they drove the Indians off their lands. Evangelicals, who historically opposed a national church became politically activist in nature and ended up becoming the de facto state church of the United States, where they used power to oppress Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Muslims, and of course, Native American religion.
The Q movement has transformed from what it once was in a very short amount of time and it is still morphing in to something new, as desperate believers seek to find fulfillment of the predicted events, much like the Millerites who expected the Second Coming in 1843. When events don’t transpire as they anticipated, they will pivot again and again to reinterpret what Q said and seek its fulfillment in another fashion. Will they still be looking for “deltas” in ten years? Only time will tell.